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Here We Go Again

May 28th, 2005

I am betting the NY Times will be the ACLU’s first stop after getting their hands on these. I am also quite sure the NY Times can’t wait to write another 53 front-page stories on the subject either.

I have a question for the ACLU.

!!!! ** WARNING ** GRAPHIC IMAGES !!!!


When will this

and this

matter more than this?
Abu Ghraib
Abu Ghraib

At what point will these people decide that cutting off someone’s head for being an American deserves more attention than TERRORISTS being stacked in a naked pyramid??

When will the ACLU start protecting Americans and stop protecting terrorists?

**UPDATE**

Brad Spangler has a different view.

Listen up, freedom activists. We know this is coming. We need to get ready to leverage this politically as much as possible, because trends never stand still. This is our own potential future that will be seen documented in the photos from this 21st century Gulag — unless we can slow it, stop it and turn it around. This may be one of our last chances.

Just another weapon in the war against Bush, right? Just one more way of excusing the terrorists in this world right? They are all justified because a few stupid soldiers did incredibly moronic and demeaning things to some suspected terrorists. Take dirty pictures and a few heads comes off. Eye for an eye, is that how it works? Only the Koran is a book and the terrorists are massacring those innocent civilians you are so worried about.

Muslims take to blowing up other Muslims and it’s Bush’s fault? Where is the concern for the hundreds of thousands of women and children murderd by Saddam? What’s the matter? Can’t you “leverage this politically as much as possible?”

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  1. May 28th, 2005 at 17:29 | #1

    Berg shouldn’t have been killed and he wouldn’t have been if the US government hadn’t invaded a country that had not attacked the US.

    I have a question. When are the supporters of this war going to realize that supporting war crimes (an unprovoked war of aggression is itself a war crime) is precisely the opposite of patriotism?

    Civilians die in wars and Bush is the one who chose this war. That means the blood of every civilian and soldier who has or will die in this war, including Berg, is on the hands of Bush and the people who voted for him.

    You want America to be protected? Quit picking fights the US doesn’t belong in.

  2. May 28th, 2005 at 17:32 | #2

    You just proved my point.

  3. May 28th, 2005 at 17:39 | #3

    That assumes you have a point, which hasn’t been demonstrated at all.

  4. May 28th, 2005 at 17:52 | #4

    Muslims take to blowing up other Muslims and it’s Bush’s fault?

    How much of that was going on in Iraq before the US invaded?

    Where is the concern for the hundreds of thousands of women and children murderd by Saddam?

    Saaddam? You mean the dictator that got his start as a CIA stooge? American intervention inflicted him on the Iraqis in the first place, and this war was brought about by the ideological successors of the people behind that crime — yet you seem to think mentioning Saddam does something other than prove the folly of foreign intervention.

  5. May 28th, 2005 at 17:55 | #5

    Kepp it up. You are doing more for my argument that I ever could.

  6. May 28th, 2005 at 18:00 | #6

    Kepp it up. You are doing more for my argument that I ever could.

    That doesn’t deal with the points I raised. Who’s your debate coach? Pee Wee Herman? “I know you are, but what am I?”

  7. May 28th, 2005 at 18:12 | #7

    Typical leftist. Your “points” are the talking points you use to “leverage this politically as much as possible.”

    You don’t have points, you have leftist-America hating-propaganda. Why do you live in a country you so obviously hate? Afraid if you went to live in the middle east, they might cut your head off for being an Amercian?

    I can hear it now, you screaming bloody murder, just like Nick Berg did, as they slice the knife into your neck. What would you scream Brad? Would you scream that you voted for Kerry? That you believe Saaddam was a CIA stooge? That you “did you part” by protesting? That you believe they have been “wronged?”

    Do you think they would care?

  8. marc
    May 28th, 2005 at 18:12 | #8

    Nick Berg wouldn’t have been in Iraq if he had simply chosen not to go.
    Last time I checked, no one put a gun to his head and forced him.

    Muslims take to blowing up other Muslims and it’s Bush’s fault?

    How much of that was going on in Iraq before the US invaded?

    A bunch. Only it involved more chemical weapons (Kurds) and firing squads than bombs.

    Sheesh.

  9. May 28th, 2005 at 18:13 | #9

    Everyone’s fault EXCEPT the guy with the knife, right Marc?

  10. May 28th, 2005 at 18:24 | #10

    Typical leftist.

    I’m not a leftist. I’m a libertarian.

    Your “points” are the talking points you use to “leverage this politically as much as possible.”

    I make no apologies for politically fighting against the slide into fascism. Or is politics okay only when *you* do it?

    …you have leftist-America hating-propaganda.

    You know not what you say.

    It is precisely because I love this country so much that I do the best I can to attack the people who have done the most to hurt America — the US government.

  11. May 28th, 2005 at 18:28 | #11

    Libertarian? Bullshit. You can call yourself that, but you obvioulsy have not a clue what the word means. Libertarian’s don’t excuse other people’s behavior by reaching back 20 years and blaming it on the actions of someone else. That seems to be the m/o of the left-wing in this country.

    Great having that 20/20 hindsight, huh Brad?

    It is precisely because I love this country so much that I do the best I can to attack the people who have done the most to hurt America — the US government.

    I guess that pretty much says it all, doesn’t it. Good night, Brad.

  12. May 28th, 2005 at 18:39 | #12

    Pointing out that the US government started this war for no good reason and that this led to is not Bergs death is not “excusing” anyone. Goodnight yourself.

  13. May 30th, 2005 at 15:33 | #13

    The Abu Ghraib abuses were initally uncovered in an ARMY investigation, & the people involved have been prosecuted. The American military, like every other military, isn’t perfect, but it is self-correcting. I’m also glad you brought up the CIA connection with Saddam, which makes it all the more just that the Bush Administration removed him. (Although it’s as meaningless as blaming America for Communism because of FDR’s alliance with Stalin)

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